December 31, 2004
Booze, Sex, Taquitos and Indoor Fireworks
Up until a couple of years ago, we always hosted the New Year's Eve bash for thirty of our closest friends, and no post necessary on that. The title says it all. We have since wised up. Plus, all of our rowdy friends seem to be settlin down.
So, tonight we will traverse the county, so as to hang with my immediate family, where we will have 50+ acres to act like hellions without taking in any witnesses.
There will be a weenie/marshmellow roast, beer, boxed wine, boiled peanuts, target practice offa the front friggin porch, and an assortment of fireworks.
Yes, the country girl in me will be alive and well tonight. Them's my roots.
Be safe blogworld, and have a Happy New Year!
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Have a great time! Sounds like fun. We are just going to be walking a couple of doors down to go to a party. At least we don't have to worry about designated drivers.
Happy New Year!
posted by
Moogie on December 31, 2004 01:14 PM
Sounds like our kinda party! Happy New Year and have a great time.
posted by
Beth on December 31, 2004 02:53 PM
Happy New Year to you too. Ain't no way you can ring 'er in without boxed wine and a little shootin' off the porch.
posted by
Sam on December 31, 2004 03:53 PM
Happy New Year to you and yours Key!!
Stay safe.
posted by
Christina on December 31, 2004 04:12 PM
.. Happy New Year, Sis!...
posted by
Eric on December 31, 2004 06:02 PM
You be safe, too, country girl...
posted by
Jack on December 31, 2004 07:03 PM
Happy New Year, Key
posted by
Grey Biker on December 31, 2004 07:41 PM
Got any pictures? Of the sex, I mean. Not that I would want to SEE them, of course. I'm just curious.
Happy New Year, darlin.'
posted by
Acidman on January 1, 2005 03:43 PM
Hot Damn! It's been a while since I had target practice off the back porch LOL.
posted by
John on January 1, 2005 08:00 PM
Did you survive or what? Come on, now...let's have the dirty details!
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Do They Think That Shit Is Cute?
What up with these internet ads featuring a huge, hairy cyber-roach crawling it's ugly ass all over my screen, while I'm minding my own business trying to look up a non-bug related word on dictionary.com?
That is nasty! Stop it retarded marketing people! Stop it right now! I don't want to win your free roach-infested Ipod.
Ulllgghhh... My skin is still crawling.
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I do not like cockroaches when they are real. What would make anyone think I would like them when they are virtual? I'm with you on this one key.
posted by
Moogie on December 31, 2004 12:43 PM
Me three. Yuch.
posted by
Beth on December 31, 2004 02:54 PM
Out of curiosity, and boredom, I actually clicked on that ad to see what was involved.
In order to get the Ipod, you must fill out what seems like an endless array of surveys, and when that's over, you really get taken.
It shows you a list of links, there are three pages of them, and you must 'activate' two offers per page. It starts out innocuous enough...two week free trials to Blockbuster and the like, and then builds up to what seems to be freebie offers, but are actually freebie tac-ons to other items you must purchase.
All in all, while I'm sure that one can choose offerings much less expensive than just purchasing the Ipod outright, it is still quite deceptive.
After really looking at what they do, cockroaches seem quite fitting.
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December 30, 2004
Presents Are So Expensive
Next year, I'm buying cat toys. This decision was born yesterday, at the family gathering.
Miss Priss latched on to my cousin's daughter, who is 10. These girls are a dangerous combo. Both Pisces, they are drama queens, articulate, descriptive, and worrisome. Okay, they are freaks.
The presents were opened. They oohed and aahed appropriately, posed for pics, then split.
They emerged a few minutes later and found me in the Kitchen. "Come to the bathroom with us," they say.
"Nah," I say with a smirk, "I think you can handle that on your own."
Frustrated, the elder of the two grew specific in her demands, "We want you to see our SWINGING PENDULUM OF DEATH!" (This delivered with creepy voice and mischievous eyes.)
While I laughed and appreciated the creative phrase, I was unfortunately held captive by an aunt and a fru fru dog.
Time lapsed. I had forgotten about the conversation. I had forgotten to take a bathroom break. I finally did so.
I walked into the grandparent-style bathroom with the crocheted doll over a roll of toilet paper the primary decor...or it had been anyway.
I stepped back with a gasp as I witnessed my first rodent suicide. There, on the shower bar and hung from a string, was the most realistic looking furry brown fake mouse I believe I've ever seen.
"Swinging pendulum of death" indeed.
(So tempted to return the Bratz Ski Lodge for a slew of cat toys...)
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Cute. There's nothing like creative children, is there? Makes me wish I were young again... ;)
posted by
pam on December 30, 2004 11:10 PM
Her middle name wouldn't be Poe, by any chance?
posted by
Velociman on December 31, 2004 10:08 AM
Heh...remind me never to let my daughter hang with your daughter. Mine has a good enough imagination the way she is.
posted by
Moogie on December 31, 2004 12:46 PM
Be glad you weren't at my house. It would have been a real mouse.
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December 28, 2004
Shrek In The House
I married an ogre.
So the kids got Shrek 2 for Christmas, and they were watching it this morning as I chatted on the phone with my aunt who is in from Baltimore.
A visit to my grandfather's lake house has been mandated, as is usual and customary this time of year when all the aunts and uncles roll in.
Two uncles are pastors, the cousins are scholastically gifted, but logically impaired, they all talk as though they are addressing a two year old, and the collective fashion statement being presented is a bit retro to be kind. (And yes, these would be the folks who force hours worth of home videos upon their family members.)
So, naturally, I told her that I'd be there tomorrow, hung up, groaned, and cautiously delivered the much dreaded news to the husband, who is not above killing the messenger.
This is the good part.
We've reached the part of the Shrek 2 movie where Fiona is being summoned to her parents castle, and Shrek is less than enthused.
And damned if Shrek and my own personal ogre didn't go off simultaneously! I'm not going. Why should I? That's YOUR family! I don't WANT to go! Forget it!
Heh.
I looked at the screen, then looked at him, and I couldn't help but laugh despite his ogre-ish expression.
"I married Shrek," I informed him, "You're such an ogre!"
"And it's about time you realize that," he shot back with a reluctant grin.
Fine. He wants it. He gots it. He's no longer Mr. Key. His new online handle is Shrek.
I ruled out both Ogre and Grumpy Bastard in favor of that one. I really am too kind, am I not?
(Yeah, so uh, wish me luck with the clashing families tomorrow...)
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Mayhaps a mutual agreement of: "I'll attend your family events if you'll attend my family events", or you could come to agreement to do just the opposite. At least it would be settled before hand, rather than played out each and every time a family event occured. Just a thought......
In any event, no matter whose family events they are, my memory reminds me that they're all pretty horrible.
Anyway, have a very happy and prosperous New Year!!.....in spite of family relatives :-)
posted by
Vulgorilla on December 29, 2004 09:42 AM
Hot, monkey sex has always worked to get this ogre to do similar icky tasks... Just and fyi...
posted by
WarWagon on December 29, 2004 10:28 AM
Does this mean that one of your Uncles was originally a frog? Which one is the fairy godmother? Oh...I'm hoping prince charming doesn't show up. His hair is so...well, you know, 80's.
(BTW...the girls got Shrek 2 as well. I have now seen it 32 times)
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Someone's Watching Over Me...
So I didn't mind so much the first dozen or so times that I heard Hilary Duff belt out these lyrics, but after an hour or so...
I just have one question. WHO the HELL invented the friggin REPEAT button on my daughter's otherwise mucho stylin lavender CD player?
Who?
I'll be needing a name and address so that I can order a proper hit. Thanks.
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I too, feel your pain. Count me in on the funding for said hit.
posted by
John on December 28, 2004 03:13 PM
That, my dear friend, is why they invented headsets. :D But I agree on the hit. I'll hold 'em down and you bitch slap 'em.
posted by
Moogie on December 28, 2004 04:39 PM
I have had 12 years of uninterrupted bubble gum rammed into my tinnitus-afflicted ears. No sympathy. Deal with it. Sorry, chile.
posted by
Velociman on December 29, 2004 12:40 AM
THAT SONG ROX U PPLZ R FUCKIN KONNY WAKER OLD FARTS!
posted by
HIL FAN! on January 14, 2005 02:08 AM
okay. do you ppl honestly feel so bad about yourselfes that you have to spend the whole day dissing my little sister!? i mean honestly.
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December 27, 2004
Her Primal Purginess Strikes Back!
It all started on December 6, 2003, when Anna put up a seemingly harmless post and link.
Little did she know that when I said "I think I'm gonna have to try it," I meant it:
So Toxie, the tampon angel went to live with her Mama on January 19, 2004.
This year, the mother of my child has not forgotten me. Behold! I give you, the TWINS!
Say hi to Maxie and Paxie! They are new to this world, as they arrived on my doorstep on the eve of Christmas Eve.
The following message from Anna accompanied the little jewels: (in all caps of course, because apparently this is the way the freakish geniuses among us express themselves.)
THIS IS A VERY DISTURBING TRADITION WE'VE BEGUN. HERE'S THE COUSINS OF THE TAMPON ANGEL, TOXIE. THEY'RE THE PERFECT ACCESSION FOR THE HEMOPHILIAC BOZO CROWD. -Anna
Oh, ya gotta love her. And she also sent me something really yummy, meaning she's gotta love me too.
The master creator within me is already pondering next year's feminine hygiene ornament. It's still up in the air, but I'm thinking maybe Rudolph, the Red-nosed Douche-bag. What do ya say Anna? Would he be a welcome addition to the family?
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I created a new company that specializes in these homemade accessories. I'm calling it "Only Women Bead." You can be my partner.
So glad the slippers arrived intact. I wasn't sure your size so I went all out with the Nuclear Maxi. Be sure to peel off the backing to enjoy the nonskid sole feature.
Acid, go with the flow, dude.
posted by
Anna on December 28, 2004 02:20 AM
LOL, I loved the angels!
posted by
Melonie on December 28, 2004 10:41 AM
"Go with the flow???" Anna, you are a sick fuck. I LIKE that quality in a person.
posted by
Acidman on December 28, 2004 12:45 PM
Will do, Anna. Trust me, I'll be wearing the little beauties in the next pic... I'll just be needing a coordinating pedicure first.
posted by
Key on December 28, 2004 01:13 PM
My EYES!!! My EYES!!! Have a heart, there are men folk that read this stuff...
posted by
WarWagon on December 28, 2004 01:27 PM
OMG! I need to stop reading your posts with the first cup of coffee in my hands in the morning. This one made it go right through the nose. :D
You owe me a monitor woman.
Acidman..yeah, go with the flow. Guess it's a woman thing. She's a relative to most of the female population. I take it you haven't met my Dear Aunt Flo before?
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Moogie on December 28, 2004 03:10 PM
Thank you for all the information, all this is an art. Congratulations.
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December 25, 2004
Just stopping by...
...to wish Key a merry Christmas.
Key is one of those rare people who instead of just talking about it actually walks the walk when it comes to making the world a better place. Being a foster-mom is tough, on both the home and the heart, yet she does it, and it speaks volumes for the compassionate person she is.
What she does deserves far more admiration than it receives. Tell her about it here in the comments and give her one of the best Christmas presents you can give to anyone: recognition that the world is a better place because of them. I'll give it you a start:
Key, I know the world is a better place because of you and what you do. Thank you.
Now, the rest is up to you, Key's readers, and I know you'll do the right thing.
-Jack signing off-
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.. Jack's right, Key... but you already knew that..
posted by
Eric on December 25, 2004 02:23 PM
Aaaw, Jack, thank you honey.
I've known for a while that you were sensitive, thoughtful, and appreciative, even as we debate our asses off. ;)
Your Christmas post is a wonderful gift.
I treasure so many relationships that I have built online, and yours is most assuredly one of them.
posted by
Key on December 25, 2004 09:57 PM
Merry Christmas Baby!!!
Cool Candy.
posted by
Sam on December 25, 2004 11:06 PM
Key,
I am mostly a lurker, and seldom comment, but I would like to say this.....
If only the world were populated with a lot more of you, what a wonderful place this would be.
Have a very merry Christmas, and a happy, and prosperous, new year!
posted by
Vulgorilla on December 26, 2004 08:36 AM
I've been reading you for awhile and, I admire the hell out of you.
posted by
JAS on December 27, 2004 01:09 AM
You're aces in my book regardless of what Acidman says about you!
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December 24, 2004
The Stockings Were All Hung...
As was me. But I promised myself if I was going to stalk it would be polite.
Sorry, Key.
I am poaching bandwidth while I figure out my "destiny". I have a fulfilled life, a beautiful American dream. I miss my friends at times, though, and I miss my mother during the joyous season. This will be the fifth without her.
I hope all of the faithful readers of Key Issues have a wonderful Christmas, and I look forward to future stalkings here, should the Mistress allow it.
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.. I understand completely, Velociman... this is the third year without my Father... and, I am still a kid at heart..
posted by
Eric on December 25, 2004 08:23 AM
Merry Christmas Velociman...
You are welcome at the Key-pad anytime. Perhaps you can jazz things up a little. ; )
posted by
Key on December 25, 2004 11:45 AM
I count among my blessings every day that I still have my parental units. I'd share, but it just wouldn't be the same. And they don't travel well in those big airline kennels.
*hugs* Merry Christmas, V-man.
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Christmas Eve Has Found Me
I am part Santa after all. So spirited am I, that I won't even miss the good night's sleep I won't get, for I shall be spoiling younguns rotten.
But NOT until the sun is up. Jeez, gotta draw a line somewhere. I'm considering duct taping their doors shut until 7!
Is that wrong?
Regarding the Christmas cards, I would like to thank each of you who actually responded to the address call.
You guys should eventually receive autographed tidings. Quite late of course, as they were mailed Wednesday. Those who did not respond have had a seven year curse placed upon their persons. If this applies to you, this means that you will not be meeting or pleasuring anyone on your laminated cards during this time period. Sorry, shoulda participated.
I would further excoriate, if not for these pesky warm fuzzies...
Merry Christmas, Blogworld!
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Well, I'm not a Georgia blogger, nor even an honorary one, and besides, if you mailed my Christmas card on Wednesday, I'll get it in time for Valentines...
:-P
Merry Christmas, Key.
posted by
Jack on December 24, 2004 09:09 PM
I must have mine by April 15th. Figure I can barter it for $1500 worth of income taxes. It IS Key, after all. Even Uncle Sam knows the power of that signature.
posted by
Velociman on December 24, 2004 10:09 PM
Heh.
I'm worth over 20 grand to the leeches.
posted by
Key on December 24, 2004 10:17 PM
Heh, I thought you were joking.
posted by
Geoffrey on December 24, 2004 10:27 PM
Merry, merry, Momma. Hope you've finished your shopping by now! ;) If you're online, send me a mail. Let's chat!
posted by
Queenie on December 24, 2004 10:49 PM
Back at ya, Key -- to you and yours.
posted by
Jim - PRS on December 24, 2004 11:00 PM
.. all the best to you and yours, Key... a very Merry Christmas...
posted by
Eric on December 25, 2004 08:21 AM
Merry Merry Merry! Hope the kidlets had a great day, and let you have a great one as well.
posted by
Mamamontezz on December 26, 2004 01:16 AM
Hope you had a great Christmas.
posted by
Dash on December 26, 2004 12:29 PM
Belated Merry Christmas and a Very Happy New Year!!!
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December 23, 2004
Short-Cuts
I admit it. I'm a bum efficient. I'm always looking for the short cut.
But I've never had much use for Kitchen gadgets. Fancy processor thingys with multiple attachments. Bah. I can manage.
So, I made homemade toffee for Miss Priss's teachers last week when school let out. Let it be known that I painstakingly hand chopped and chopped and chopped three cups worth of pecans. Made the toffee, agonized over pulling it at the right temp, made the right call, added chopped pecans, covered with chocolate, and garnished with more pecans.
Perfect. Awesome. Incredible. I kicked ass. Even my picky ass husband ran me down the road for giving it all away.
No prob, I assure, I'll make more for the little guy's teachers. That was to be today's project.
This morning's attempt failed thanks to boiling water within the candy thermometer. Hardened black sludge I produced. Heh. Who's been bad this year? I got your Christmas present right here...
This afternoon, I decided being down to the wire, I needed a short cut. So, I looked around my Kitchen for some appliance that would chop pecans for me.
Nothing.
Well, I thought, my blender has a chop button on it. What the hell. In goes the pecans.
And out comes three cups of pecan powder. ...Oops.
What the hell? Let's try this little thing. Timing is perfect this time on the toffee. I add the pecan powder, and whattya know? Groovy chemical reaction. I no longer have toffee. Thanks to the two cups of pecan "flour," I now have toffee COOKIES. Fluffy, crumbly, sugary sweet pecan shortbread.
It now sits in the fridge awaiting trial by me. It is yet to be determined whether this stuff is passable for Christmas treats.
But it sure as hell ain't what it coulda been.
I share this as a public service announcement, as I have found yet another short-cut which does not pay off.
Blenders are for margaritas. Somebody make me one.
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"Fluffy, crumbly, sugary sweet pecan shortbread."
I don't know, Key... sounds pretty dadgum good to me... ;)
posted by
pam on December 23, 2004 03:03 PM
I'm drinking a "Rita" in your honor as I type.
Salute!
posted by
Sam on December 23, 2004 04:48 PM
I'm thinking "pecan powder" on ice cream.
posted by
Jim - PRS on December 23, 2004 09:26 PM
First, Merry Chritmas Key!
Now, about that peCAN stuff you made. It's all in the marketin'. Go on and give it to the teacher, just label it, "PeCAN Jerkey".
'Neck
posted by
RedNeck on December 24, 2004 04:33 AM
Key, just make up a name of what it is supposed to be and nobody will know the difference! You may go down in the history books as a great inventor of new candies! *well, it's possible* Hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas!
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December 22, 2004
Confession
Apparently, half of the hits I earn on a daily basis are thanks to Image Googlers hitting the 'ol blogspot pad.
I have a large catfish pic (lifted off of the Kimmer Show) to thank for this phenomenon:
Perhaps I am presumed to have an answer as to the origin of this scaly beast.
Very well. Full disclosure.
I don't know how he could have gotten so sloppy as to have taken in witnesses, but I have a dear ol' friend who has Daryl Hannah type qualities when he hits water.
He goes out for a swim, makes his secret transformation, and is unfortunately occasionally spotted, or even reeled in.
Once he is pulled to shore, however, his nekkid tattooed ass gets up and walks away, leaving the scolded, barbed and bewildered fisherman with only their pics and their urban legends.
So, next time you see a six foot Catfish skinny-dipping in a local lake, let him be, lest you incur his wrath.
(Now, you can take that as the nekkid truth, or you can opt for the more boring explanation. Your call.)
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That's not me, that is a first cousin, Cat.
posted by
Catfish on December 22, 2004 06:28 PM
Hey, you can't school the story teller! It is what it is...
posted by
Key on December 22, 2004 08:04 PM
Key --
It's called "Noodling" and is one of those strange fisherman habits that is popular in rivers. A guy just walks around in waist deep water until he bumps up against the beast, then he reaches down and catches the thing with his hands. Fortunately, a fish that big is rather lethargic and can be handled without too much bloodshed. The standard practice is to catch and release. Guys do this for fun (!).
They say the really big ones are in the Mississippi, but I've seen some fifty pounders taken out of the St. John's River (I live in Sanford, which is on that mighty septic tank outfall).
So it's no myth. The damned things are all too real. Can you imagine feeling around with your feet until you bump into one of these monsters then actually grabbing it and dragging the thing to the boat? No me, honey.
Bob
posted by
Bob Baird on December 23, 2004 12:05 PM
Thanks Bob!
Actually the "urban legend" is (in this case) referring to claiming rights.
It seems everyone wants to claim that this monster emerged from THEIR nearest watering hole.
I heard Georgia, others heard Texas, some say the Mississippi...
posted by
Key on December 23, 2004 12:45 PM
"He goes out for a swim, makes his secret transformation, and is unfortunately occasionally spotted, or even reeled in.
Once he is pulled to shore, however, his nekkid tattooed ass gets up and walks away, leaving the scolded, barbed and bewildered fisherman with only their pics and their urban legends."
I could've sworn you had an close encounter with the Mutant.
Havin' said that, I'd bet big that Rob would pay good money for the Key-Mutant video... Kim too prolly.
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RedNeck on December 24, 2004 04:43 AM
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Somebody's Gotta Say It
Might as well be me.
Fine line between birth and abortion, huh? At 8.6 ounces, really could have gone either way.
I'm not going to start a debate on legalities, because I'm black and white on my opinion of this.
I [reluctantly] think a mother should have the right to request a child be removed from her person at any point. (After all, she could be a psycho on the verge of taking a knife to her gut.) But doctors should be required to do everything within their power to save the child, as murder is ideally a punishable offense in this country. Child lives, she has no rights. Ever. Child dies, she's a shit.
Am I judging? No, I'm just saying. I've done shitty things. Legal, but shitty. I have been a SHIT. And guess what, there's always someone around to tell me I've been a shit!
Why the fuck shouldn't they hear it? It can't be shamed, because it's a glorified political issue? Bullshit. Go look at the picture of this living and breathing, beautiful child and imagine it in pieces.
Abortion is a disgusting, bloody, crying shame.
Update: Okay maybe Velociman has a point when he says I'm conflicted here. Or perhaps my rant mode just lacks fluidity. Perhaps I am too conflicted to debate first trimester abortion. While I believe it's abused and we have become desensitized to it, I do not believe it should be legislated by government. I tend to resist government in general, and particularly the smokescreens which are social issues.
No, when I was ranting, I was thinking about THAT child, that 8.6 ounce fully developed child, and the fact that children that size are still aborted every day, as they have not reached the gestational size to be protected from partial birth murder.
So my rant-hidden point is that a pregnancy could be ended early without a life always being taken, that is if the doctors were required to at least attempt a live birth. If an 8.6 ounce baby can live, many late term abortions could be adoptions, even in the second trimester.
Who pays? Well, ideally the insurance provider of the adoptive parent. But as much as I hate taxpayer funded anything, I for one, would be willing to chip in for that neonatal bill.
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Sorry, Key, I have to call you on this.
So, government shouldn't intervene to save the lives of old people but they should tell women what to do with themselves and their bodies and the potential life inside their bodies.
So, what other judgments should the government make?
Who should decide what judgments the government should make?
Why don't we punish the parents who choose not to teach their kids about sex, and the kids have children themselves before they have even turned 18?
The list of things released by opening the Padora's box you propose staggers the mind.
The world is filled with bloody, crying shames, including innumerable children ALREADY here and ALREADY alive that are unwanted. BEFORE we say "bear all children" we MUST COMMIT to taking care of those ALREADY here.
That's not going to happen.
posted by
Jack on December 22, 2004 09:33 PM
Whoooooaaaa, reread my third paragraph.
I humbly ask that the doctors do everything they can to bring the child into the world alive.
If a baby that weighs 8 ounces can be brought into the world alive, many aborted babies can as well...if they are not killed before given a chance.
Choosing to end a pregnancy is one thing, demanding the child die is quite another.
posted by
Key on December 22, 2004 10:17 PM
And yes, we must commit to taking care of those who are already here.
I'm doing my part, or as much as I can anyway.
(Meanwhile, there is a 3 to 5 year waiting list for newborn adoptions.)
posted by
Key on December 22, 2004 10:21 PM
Funny thing about the clarification in your "Whooooaaaa" comment: That's sort of the impression I got when I read the original statement, and I had to go back and re-read it to see what you were clarifying. I get your drift, though I somehow just inferred it when I first read.
Anyway, two things occur to me, so I'll blurt them out:
I've never heard anyone request or suggest logical separation between ending a pregnancy and ending a life. The idea that doctors should seek to save a life during pregnancy termination is both obvious and a bit profound. Obvious because, well, it's obvious, now that you mention it. Profound because, well, it had never occurred to me. The case you use as your example makes the point, and a good point it is.
And yes, I do believe life exists before delivery, just as I believe that there's a big difference between some guy (me, for instance) telling a woman not to get an abortion and me telling my neighbor not to, say, kill his uncle. Conflicted? Oh yeah.
As for the second thing: My mother was a staunch (staunch!) Catholic, and the day she essentially said that "a mother should have the right to request a child be removed from her person at any point" you could have knocked me over with a feather. It certainly changed the dynamic by which I view abortion. But perhaps not as much as the revelation contained in my first point, above.
Thanks for the thought-provoking post.
posted by
Patton on December 22, 2004 11:40 PM
Your last sentence took the wind out of your third paragraph, so that's what I was responding to.
;-)
At the risk of sounding even more cold-bloodedly harsh than you accuse yourself of being when you discuss Social Security reform, we are already breeding ourselves for more premature babies and deformities by the extraordinary measures we take to "save every baby", thereby ensuring that the genes that cause premature births, birth defects, and other characteristics we do not wish on anyone are preserved and eventually propagated.
Am I advocating euthanasia or deliberate baby killing of babies with birth defects as has been done in the past of our human race? Nope, but I AM saying we need to look at the long term consequences of our actions, including making decisions fraught with a huge emotional component.
As a counterpoint to your proposal, I suggest that any baby that cannot survive outside the womb without heroic intervention should be allowed to die as painlessly as possible, otherwise we are on the path to breeding for MORE premature births, MORE birth defects, and MORE people who consistently make BAD decisions.
Cold-blooded? Yes. Heartless? Possibly. But, so is deciding to go to war and sending hundreds of people to their deaths, and changing the lives of thousands for the worse in ways that are rarely recognized and even more rarely recompensed. Yet we are willing to make those decisions because it is "the right thing for our nation" or "the right thing for the human race".
Which decision has the larger, long term consequences?
posted by
Jack on December 22, 2004 11:42 PM
Jack, I'm so thrilled to have you in my time zone.
I threw an update out there, but I doubt it will bring us any closer together. ; )
None-the-less, I shall be happy to continue the dance, once well-rested...
(Something to chew on, I'd lay down my life for the life of an infant. So yeah, maybe I do value young life over old. Do we not grieve our children over our parents? This is natural, n'est-ce pas?)
Patton: "Thought-provoking" is high praise. Thank you.
posted by
Key on December 23, 2004 12:26 AM
You've only got me here in this time zone for about 11 more days, so enjoy it while it lasts!!!
You are correct that your update doesn't bring us any closer together, because you do not address my point of how we are breeding ourselves towards MORE premature births and MORE defects. So, my relating abortion, heroic measures taken to save premature babies, and your proposal to the decision to go to war does not really say "young life over old", it is an example of how we make decisions on death for the larger good of our culture and many times we say for humanity at large.
So, are we doing humanity at large any favors by allowing the genes that relate to birth defects and premature births to propogate? I say we are not, it is just most don't have the intestinal fortitude to do something about it, yet they have the temerity to lecture those who don't agree with them that every baby still in the womb is precious and should be preserved at any and all costs. Valuing potential life over life that is already in existence (and in my argument relating it to decisions to go to or support a war, "old" can be anything from 18 to 65) is driven by emotion and, dare I say, instict, not what is rational for the survival and success of the species. Nor is it morally consistent.
Rest up, I want to see your counter-argument.
Patton's praise of "thought-provoking" is well deserved, as you can see I have put more verbiage in your comments than in my own blog today.
posted by
Jack on December 23, 2004 01:17 AM
Jack, one flaw in your argument is that, as we made advances in the field of medicine, there are fewer and fewer premie-related birth defects. Seriously premie babies are living full, healthy lives these days with little or even no side effects from their early arrival. Yes, it is not perfect, but it is getting better and better as time goes on.
Another flaw in your argument is that promoting premature birth instead of abortion will propogate certain genes ( your quote: "So, are we doing humanity at large any favors by allowing the genes that relate to birth defects and premature births to propogate?") Unless I am completely misreading this, you're confusing the issue. By promoting these particular premie births, you're not allowing the propogation of those genes because this is an induced procedure, not a natural process. There is no genetics involved. Any birth defects would be truly a defect due to early birth, not a gene code defect. Same goes with the tendency to deliver early- unless there is a genetic propensity to seek an abortion.
posted by
Beth on December 23, 2004 12:34 PM
*groan, whine*
Jaaack, you're making me work on my day off...
Okay, fine.
I'm not THAT insensitive on SSI. I think next year's 18 year old should have the choice between letting the US Treas handle their 15% or putting in an IRA. And I disagree with you in your fear of a bottom, because no matter how versatile the stock market, it ain't gonna diminish a return like good 'ol Uncle Sam will.
No, I don't like handouts. If you're able-bodied enough to walk out to the mailbox and retrieve a check, you're able-bodied enough to do something for a living.
Please tell me you do not have more sympathy for one of these scenarios than you do fully developed baby being legally killed because it's on the wrong side of the womb.
Part of this is a disgust that partial birth abortions EVER took place. I will always mourn those deaths. They were murdered. The doctors EASILY could have brought them in alive. They had rights. They didn't need her to live on their own. They were murdered.
Why not give the child a chance? And I'm not discussing the rarity that seeks a late abortion because she has discovered that the child has severe defects. Even the doctors will refer to that as an "optional medical procedure" rather than using the term "abortion" in that sensitive situation.
When I say "abortion," I mean it to define the removal of perfectly healthy child from someone's uterus cuz they don't want it there, and can't even handle it hanging out a few months until it can grow, thrive and be adopted out.
In which case, why isn't it our practice to try to save the child, premature though it may be. If the adoptive parents are willing to put up with minor developmental delays and hefty medical bills, which many would, then why not?
I stand by my statement that even if a woman has a right to choose to end her pregnancy, she should NOT have the right to insist the child be killed in the process.
Having said that, glad I got ya thinking. We haven't danced in a while. ; )
And Beth, I appreciate you weighing in as well.
posted by
Key on December 23, 2004 03:13 PM
Jack, your comment about abortion being legitimate because there are already unwanted children in the world is an exercise in reductio ad absurdum. That's like saying we should not build automobiles because Pintos exploded. They are completely separate issues. To even think along the lines of "If I kill you before you are born I may spare you the possibility of neglect or abuse or hunger down the road" is absurd. There are better arguments than that.
Also: I am not saying that abortion kills a child. But SOMETHING dies. Please explain what that something is.
Thanks, V (aka the Devil's Advocate)
And, yes, I am breaking my rule. For Key, because I wanted her to clarify her remarks.
posted by
Velociman on December 23, 2004 10:30 PM
V:
Good question: What, if not a child, dies? There are stages in life, and we give them names. Newborn, infant, toddler, child, pre-teen, pain-in-my-damn-ass, adult. You get the idea.
"Fetus", while nice and medical sounding, seems a clinical way to avoid the recognition that SOMETHING dies, but that it's not a something that matters. Not that I think this is what you're saying, by the way - you're carefully avoiding saying too much at all, for reasons I think I can understand. You're just asking, is all.
I'll grant that there's a legitimate argument that "the point of conception" isn't personhood, but it's also not, as Key crisply points out, simply a matter of which side of the womb one happens to inhabit at a given moment in time, either. Partial birth abortion (as opposed to "optional medical procedure"), for instance, seems indistinguishable from murder, in my mind, particularly given the adoption alternative.
Per your last comment on the matter over at your place:
"I basically withhold opinion on the matter. It is extremely personal, and I don't have a uterus."
Spoken like a man who's admitted to having "funded". I agree completely and can directly relate, to my (and nobody else's - it's me judging ME, not her, not you, not anyone else) continued regret.
It seems like there had to have been a better way, but making demands of someone's uterus other than my own wasn't something I was able to pull off. Still can't. It's a hard, hard problem.
posted by
Patton on December 24, 2004 01:00 AM
As a person who was born extremely premature and with a very low birth weight (more than three months early, and under one pound), this is a very difficult issue for me to tackle without emotion. I could extremely easily have been an abortion instead of a premature birth, but here I am today, without any mental or physical handicaps. I realize I'm an exception to the rule (I'm one of less than a dozen born in similar circumstances in the last twenty-five years to be both living and without any form of handicap), but there's a reason for it--I was born prematurely. I was not aborted because my mother didn't want me in there anymore. And when I was born, I was a healthy baby. Many premature births are really miscarriages that survive--the body naturally aborts them because there's something wrong with the baby, and your (and all other animals) body is programmed to not waste time, energy, and strength on carrying a child that won't survive. So many of the difficulties that arise with caring for a premature baby won't apply to an aborted baby.
I agree with you, Key, in that a woman should have the right to have a fetus/baby removed from her body at any point. But into the second trimester, efforts should be made to save the baby and adopt it out. I, for one, would be proud to adopt any child, and I know I'm far from alone.
Further, I feel like I'm some sort of living proof that if a child is removed from its mother's body even relatively early in the pregnancy, if the child is healthy, then it can survive with little to know side-effects from the early birth.
If it matters in any way in this debate, I only required medical help for two weeks before I was sent home, and even then I only required oxygen and heat for that time.
posted by
Samira on December 26, 2004 06:19 PM
Thank you Samira. I really appreciate your personal testimony. It's a tough subject, and you KNOW I had to be rather frustrated to go there!
The pic of that baby that went home during Christmas week was the motivation that kicked this rant out of my head and into the forum.
posted by
Key on December 27, 2004 11:53 AM
(Advance apologies for extraneous noise)
The discussion's likely over for this issue here, at least for now, but I thought I'd drop a link to what seems like an intelligent discussion of what our country's approach to abortion could be, from George Will's Jan 2, 2005 column. It fairly encapsulates the political, legislative, and judicial aspects of the matter, and draws a stark line between pro-choice and anti-life.
Speaking of Sarah Blustain's article in December's issue of "The American Prospect", Will says:
"She, like increasing numbers of thoughtful supporters of abortion rights, finds the way some pro-choice people talk about abortion -- entirely in a defiant and even celebratory language of rights -- to be insufficiently nuanced."
Sounds about right to me, and might be descriptive of folks on both sides of this difficult issue. But it struck me hard enough to come back and pass it along, should you or your readers find it of value.
posted by
Patton on January 2, 2005 04:58 AM
Thank you Patton. I, for one, appreciate you passing the information along.
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Key on January 3, 2005 12:47 PM
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December 21, 2004
Must Be The Hair
Eric started something. I'm loving the semblance with the elf and David Spade, the latter being my pick.
Confession: Shamefully, I've always been attracted to the horny little prick. Furthermore, would a man that is a cross of David Spade and Bruce Willis not be extraordinarily irresistible?
I'm setting up a cloning lab.
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.. the likeness is truly uncanny... poor Tom Wolfe...
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That's So Thoughtful!
So I'm cooking dinner when Mr. Key decides something is amiss.
HIM: What's burning?
ME: Nothing. I just started cooking. This flat surface stove cooks too hot even on low.
HIM: No, that's not it. It's those old pots and pans. How old is that one anyway?
ME: Let's see, it was a wedding gift...so that'd make it 11+ years.
HIM: Well, I know what YOU'RE getting for Christmas!
Heh. You just try it buddy.
Fellas, if you want to purchase new items for the household, such as pots and pans, vacuum cleaners, appliances, etc., AND you want to do it around Christmas time, that is fine.
But if you would also like to remain intact, I humbly suggest you install the appliances, wash the pots and pans and put them away, and store the vacuum in the friggin closet.
The tasks associated with these things are not hobbies. They are not fun, and we do not enjoy them. (The exception might be if someone is really into cooking, and the gifts are Pampered Chef trinkets. But the exception is not good for ranting, so let us forget them for the moment.)
For most of us, these things are not "gifts." They are curses, reminders that we have a neverending supply of chores to attend to once we finish what's left of our Christmas morning! (The fact that "we" should encompass the entire family, not solely the wife is another rant.)
So... DO NOT for an instant consider wrapping that shit up and putting it under the tree as a gift!
Jeez.
Just don't.
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You obviously have not experienced the joys of vacuum-cleaner sex, which involves several snap-on attachments that come with most standard models.
I'll show you some "chores" all right.
posted by
Acidman on December 21, 2004 08:31 PM
WORDY!
WATCH YOUR TENSES!
posted by
Velociman on December 21, 2004 09:08 PM
Yeah, I got some special words just for you, Velociman...
posted by
Key on December 21, 2004 09:32 PM
Key,
Did you by chance upbraid V-man for wordiness or tenses in his chapter or elsewhere??
I just get the feeling I missed something here. (not that that would be unusual)
;-p
posted by
Christina on December 21, 2004 09:45 PM
Christina,
Believe me, he got his share of flattery. But I did ask him if the change of tense was intentional, not unlike a student would consult a prof...
I also CONFIDED in him that throughout high school and college, wordiness and tense commitment were my most difficult areas.
So, not to change the subject, but did anybody actually READ my friggin post tonight?
Jeez, Velociman coming all up in here and stealing my show...
posted by
Key on December 21, 2004 09:56 PM
Key,
I ALWAYS read your posts. I thought you covered all the bases and made your point very succinctly in a concise and clear manner. Therefore, nothing further was needed from me.
I was just curious.
;-)
posted by
Christina on December 21, 2004 10:17 PM
Thanks, Christina!
I was really only trying to give Velociman hell. (Not that Rob doesn't deserve a share for his vacuum sex comment...)
posted by
Key on December 21, 2004 10:24 PM
Women are so damn hard to please, I guess hiding a diamond ring in the wrapped up set of pots and pans wouldn't help.
posted by
James Old Guy on December 22, 2004 08:51 AM
I learned the lesson of the gifts long before I got married...
Gee, you give Velociman a full critique of his chapter and all I got was a "nicely done"? I'm devastated...
posted by
Jack on December 22, 2004 10:32 AM
I would never dream of getting my lovely spouse a vacuum, or pots & pans for Christmas. Since I know she loves the outdoors, I got her a new lawn mower and weed-eater. Boy, is she gonna be surprised!
posted by
Dash on December 22, 2004 10:35 AM
Key, that last comment was wordy. And the tense was shameful.
posted by
Velociman on December 22, 2004 10:40 AM
Hey Key,
You've got some flirting going on here.
Good for you!!!
Blind Sam
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I Wasn't Kidding People
If you are a JAWJA blogger, or if you have attended a JAWJA meet, I want your friggin snail mail address.
Yes, I realize that it is four days til Christmas, and that there is no way I could possibly get cards out on time.
I don't care.
Send it anyway. If nothing else, I can get a jump on next year.
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Velociman
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Rincon, Georgia
Zipcode unknown
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December 20, 2004
Foul Mouth
I just visited one of my boy John's observations, and left the following comment:
I'll never get it. $2 toothbrush, $2 toothpaste... or rancid, decaying gums and teeth.
Why would anyone CHOOSE the latter?
Now, I ask you, WHYFORTHELUVAGAWD would anyone allow their teeth to rot out of their heads? (While poverty may explain poor dental care, it will never explain away poor gum maintenance, as brushing and flossing is a rather inexpensive habit.)
I was talking to a friend out on the square after our little Mayberry-style Christmas parade, when a decent looking middle aged man in jeans and a cowboy hat walked up and said hello to our apparent mutual friend.
...and then he smiled.
Oooh, what a travesty. They were black I tell you! Well, cream on the ends, black at the gum line to be specific. I imagined the breath and found myself taking a step back.
And I know that I am not the only one to have noticed this phenomenon, but I must have answers. Why opt out of brushing?
Why? Please somebody tell me.
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Pure laziness.
posted by
Alaska Kim on December 20, 2004 05:45 PM
It's the dentition version of face piercing.
posted by
Velociman on December 20, 2004 06:13 PM
Weren't taught proper dental care as children, so never picked up the habit?
I guess that'd be the 'raised in a barn' excuse. ;)
posted by
pam on December 20, 2004 09:06 PM
Sometimes, gum problems are hereditary. I've never had a problem with tooth decay, but I DO have problems with my gums. I have my own gas mask at the peridontist's office and I still go for a root-plane, deep-cleaning every three months.
I'm gonna eventually lose my perfectly good teeth anyway, no matter how much I brush and floss.
Laziness has nothing to do with that.
posted by
Acidman on December 20, 2004 11:35 PM
I understand that Acidhoney, BUT I'm not talking about having some hereditary quirks kick in post 50, I'm talking ROTTING out of their heads, barnyard stench for miles at or before age 30.
IF there are still teeth in their heads to be neglecting that is. (My foster son's birth parents have not a tooth between the two of them.)
posted by
Key on December 21, 2004 12:46 AM
WORDY!
WATCH YOUR TENSE!
posted by
Velociman on December 21, 2004 06:33 PM
You realize, of course, "cream on the ends" is perhaps the most stunning phrase I've ever heard. Or read.
posted by
Velociman on December 21, 2004 09:58 PM
Perhaps...
But not in THAT context!
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Key on December 22, 2004 12:07 PM
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December 19, 2004
Hey, That Feels Okay...
Everything is relative after all, no?
So although yesterday afternoon was picturesque, I'm afraid last night sucked. It sucked on so many levels, but was exacerbated by my puny physical state.
Head, ears, and throat KILLING me. I knew it was my hideously pitted tonsils acting up again, but as it was already after midnight, I didn't bother to look at the ugly fuckers, I just headed for the medicine cabinet, rummaged a minute, and emerged with a fistful of pills.
Meds taken, I was downed by 1 or so, and quite unconscious. I did not rouse, wake, or dream until 5:30 when I HAD to pee. I knew this even though I didn't know my name at the moment.
So I stumbled out of bed, then I stumbled into a wall, then I stumbled onto the opposite wall, then I fell into the bathroom and in the general direction of the toilet room (closet). Then I steadied my toilet because it was spinning out of control. And unlike a certain sit piss master or one who would opt for my plight, I have no other option than to sit, so the toilet had to be stilled.
Finally the porcelain bitch came into motionless focus long enough for me finish what I needed to do, and this time being leery and precautionary of the diminishing hallway, I managed to make it back to bed without breaking anything important.
Only then did I realize that I was quite drunk. Hey, not bad! Pain was manageable, sleep was there for the taking.
The meds wore off about eight this am, so I wandered back into the bathroom to take a look at the culprits. Nice. The tonsils are large, pitted, and covered in white puss pockets. (No, I do not blame my dear friend Kel, who just so happened to have the world's nastiest tonsils when I tucked her ass in last week! We just so happen to have a few things in common, including pitiful immune systems as well as germ-carrying kids.)
Anyway, rather than pay the $70 extra fee to see the Sunday doc, I figured I'd just self-medicate again and wait til tomorrow. I'm just trying to remember the formula. I think it is as follows:
Some Tylenol
Aquatab C, which I'm pretty sure was issued to me at some point for congestion
Tussin DM, 2 tablespoons
Tavist NightTime Allergy
Half of something blue a la Cat (Thank you, kind sir!)
Yeah, yeah. No substitute for serious medical attention. I'm going tomorrow. Meanwhile, goodnight to all and to all a good high!
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Why am I getting a trackback ping on this? I don't understand. It's not like I was linked or anything...
posted by
Velociman on December 20, 2004 12:17 AM
Geez, woman, take care of yourself!!!
posted by
Jack on December 20, 2004 02:56 AM
Hey, take care of yourself! But hell, if ya gotta be sick, you may as well enjoy the meds!
posted by
Michele on December 20, 2004 04:57 AM
Cat is a good doctor, isn't he? Hope you start feeling better.
posted by
Acidman on December 20, 2004 11:57 AM
Thanks guys! (And you're linked Velocisitter, read it again...)
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December 18, 2004
Making It All Worthwhile
Oh, have I bitched. LOVE Christmas, hate the prep work.
I am convinced that my in-laws by far exceed the typical stereotype.
How could I have missed the Christmas play that my mother-in-law was in at her church? How? Oh nevermind! Just look at these five rolls of film and OO and AAH appropriately. Whoa, don't look away, I'm not finished with you. So what if you're trying to prepare a meal for the whole family for a 1:00 get-together that you didn't even friggin volunteer for? Look. at. me!
Then the sister-in-laws showed up with my four nieces and nephew. And I love these women despite their appearances... One is a size five, the other a size three. And they are cute. Oh, so cute. Almost as cute as Acidman (whom we all know is popular only because he is cute, and not because he has any talent whatsoever.)
Next, the father-in-law - who is divorced from the mother-in-law - walked in with shopping bags and wrapping paper which he pressed into my arms. "I didn't have time, I worked a double, I...my boss, I didn't wrap these," he panted out finally.
So size 5 and I headed to the back bedroom and completed the task of wrapping gifts after lunch, all the while being serenaded with hallway rants of "PRESENTS! PRESENTS!"
And now we get to the "making it all worthwhile" part. The biggest present - not the nicest or most expensive mind you, but the biggest present - was for my sweet little foster son, courtesy my crazy as a loon father-in-law, bless his soul.
We were getting ready to divide the presents into piles when the little guy spotted the big one. "That one is yours..." I whispered to him. His eyes became huge as he eyed the gift as tall as he, "Reeeallly?" he asked. "Really," I confirmed. Then I seated him beside Miss Priss on the sofa so that the piling of gifts could begin.
Excited and greedy hands reached for gift after gift to add to their stack. They knew this process well, as they have been spoiled by loving and attentive parents. Meanwhile little guy refused to take interest in anything other than the BIG gift propped up next to the sofa.
As his other gifts were backing up the process a bit, I finally intervened. I began delivering them onto the sofa beside him and eventually one landed in his lap. THAT got his attention. He looked up at me with crushed blue eyes, "Nooo, not that one," he said, "I thought I was going to get the big one!"
"You do, sweetheart." He looked confused, and a heart-broken me immediately understood. "You get both honey," I told him. "In fact, you get this entire stack!"
"I do?" Immediately the light was back into his eyes. "You mean I get more than one?"
"Yes honey," he looked skeptical, so I ignored the knot in my throat and continued to confirm, "These are all for you."
Two or three seconds of judging my face in all earnest, and then, finally, understanding. "Cooool!"
I have never seen such excitement on a child's face as I did when he tore into that stack of gifts. I wish I could post the pics.
Suddenly the irritation - that I had expertly concealed by the way - was dissipating into the moment. I needed perspective. I got it.
My in-laws drive me insane, but they are good people who have embraced my foster son, and he was in heaven today.
Rewards.
(As an afterthought...I'm not even sure he realizes that today wasn't it. Wait 'til I tell him that he gets to do this again next week!)
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Key, BITE ME! You and your "cute."
posted by
Acidman on December 18, 2004 11:34 PM
You are so much nicer than I am. Key has a heart. Queenie has a gnawed peach-pit, left in the sun for days. Juiceless. I'm only able to muster a holiday tingle over the Honey-Baked Ham.
(Aside to Uncle Robert: You know you brung it. She gives as good as she gits, don't she?)
posted by
Queenie on December 19, 2004 01:52 AM
Okay, Key. I've been bah-humbugging with the best of them the last few days. I needed THAT perspective and attitude change.
Bless you. God love that boy child.
posted by
Christina on December 19, 2004 03:44 AM
Ain't it weird how perspective can take the air out of our self-righteous annoyance or self-pity or whatever defence mechanism we use because we fear the innocence and magic of the childhoods we have left behind?
It hurts, but it is also good.
posted by
Jack on December 19, 2004 03:48 AM
That was heartwarming; thanks for sharing! :)
posted by
pam on December 19, 2004 01:06 PM
This post is far too kind and heartwarming for a comment from a wretch like me.
Pass.
posted by
Velociman on December 19, 2004 05:43 PM
Thanks Key..I've found my perspective now. I needed that kick. Great story.
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December 16, 2004
Let's Mellow, Shall We?
I grew up in the country with acreage. (Aunt next door with acreage, Grandmother across the street with acreage... Plenty of country acreage among the bunch.)
I never thought much of the helicopters that passed through occasionally, dipping low at times and hovering, that is until that fateful day when my Grandmother was visited by the authorities.
They followed her into her pastures and assisted her in "pulling weeds."
No, she wasn't intentionally growing Marijuana, but it was there in small quantities, and an incredibly unbelievable amount of effort went into that discovery. I remember thinking, "It's a plant. It grew on its own, naturally. How can that be wrong?"
I was a child, and I had not yet been trained to believe it wrong, so I was actually quite floored that there was such a thing as an illegal plant.
Tonight, I share with you an argument for legalization which landed in my inbox courtesy the essayist Werbinox. He has contributed content to the local paper on numerous occasions, and he is both thorough and well-researched. So I humbly request that you read every point in the extended entry. Here are his words:
Dear editor,
The following is an argument outlining some of the resons to legalize Marijuana, not just for medicinal purposes (which, from personal experience, I will be willing to fight for alone) but for general reasons as well. This is a subject which is gathering great momentum, and this should fuel some "speculation" at the very least.
-Werbinox
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The subject of medicinal marijuana use is blowing in the wind again, both figuratively and literally, so let us examine the issue in all seriousness.
The therapeutic benefits of Marijuana for cancer patients who are suffering the devestating side effects of chemotherapy is so well documented that several states in our union have, in a limited fashion, legalized it's medical use, or are in the process of trying to do so. Opponents of legalized Medicinal Marijuana claim that legalizing it in any fashion will only "kick open the door", so to speak, for it's total legalization, which will lead inevitably to general cultural acceptance of Marijuana use for a plethora of reasons, not the least of which is recreational. With all due respect to these opponents and their arguments, they are absolutely right! That is why we must advocate the only sane and rational position that there is - the complete and total legalization of Marijuana!
Here are some concrete reasons to support the legalization of Marijuana:
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1) History and Cultural Acceptance -
Marijuana, also known as Hemp, has had a long and proud history in our country. It was an agricultural staple in our nation almost from the beginning, and George Washington himself grew it. During World War 2 the production of Hemp was encouraged as a part of the war effort. During the years that witnessed the birth of Jazz a number of people began to discover that smoking hemp created a pleasant physical and mental sensation known as a "high", and henceforward "Tea" (early slang for pot) became a part of American party culture on a par with tobacco and alcohol, two drugs that are currently legal and proven to be addictive, while all scientific studies of Marijuana prove conclusively that it is not addictive.
During the sixties marijuana use became a central element of counter culture consciousness, and even attained the status of a religious sacrament for those visionaries who took seriously the virtues of peace and love and forgiveness (most notably the Rastafarians) Many just saw it as a way to have a really good time without experiencing the depressing effects of addiction that come with America's two favourite legal drugs - tobacco and alcohol. As it stands in our own time, Marijuana use is an accepted part of our culture that is no more shocking than drinking a beer and playing rock and roll. Respected thinkers and individuals from the legal and law enforcement professions, to the political and entertainement arenas, advocate the long overdue legalization of Marijuana, as do many common, hard working people from all walks of life.
2) Medicinal -
Marijuana suppresses nausea and increases appetite, which is good news for those who are battling cancer with chemotherapy - which causes nausea, severe vomiting, and loss of appetite. Most of the legally prescribed drugs that are currently given to cancer patients to combat the effects of chemotherapy produce dangerous side effects themselves, such as extreme constipation, which can land a patient in the hospital for nothing other than to treat the side effect of the medication they are taking to combat the side effects of chemotherapy. Marijuana produces no side effects - aside from the fact that it is an amplifier, which means it will enhance the sensations of whatever it is that you are doing, wether you are watching a movie or listening to music, or simply thinking. It also produces a condition known as the "munchies", which gives the patient a desire to eat, a desire which can make the difference between life and death. None of these "side effects" will land you in the hospital, but they may very well keep you out of it!
No medicine on the market can compete with the beneficial effects of Marijuana for cancer patients who undergo chemotherapy. Marinol, a legel medicine that is a derivative of Marijuana (using it's active ingrediant THC) is currently available to Georgia cancer patients, yet it's effectiveness is negligable because it is weak. Once you witness a loved one suffer from cancer and chemotherapy, and personally observe the positive effects that marijuana can have on them, you will never again be the same.
It suppresses vomiting and makes them want to eat. How can a decent society deny them this? How can you deny someone you love a substance that helps them so much?
3) Economic and Environmental -
Some of the oldest and most revered documents in our national history are written on material containing Hemp. Clothes and paper products can be produced from Hemp without a single tree being cut down. Marijuana is already one of the largest cash crops in our nation, yet because of it's illegality our free market forces are not able to openly benefit from it. It is well documented that farmers across the nation, and right here in Georgia, are growing Marijuana crops because it is the only way they can survive. Many of these farmers hide their "secret" with the cooperation of local law enforcement agencies that understand the reality of the situation, and look the other way so that local citizens, relatives, and fellow working Americans can make a decent living. This is simply no way to run a state, or a country! When irrational and unjust laws cause law enforcement agencies to compromise themselves for the good of the people, then the good of the people demands that those unjust laws be abolished.
It is common knowledge that the criminal status for Marijuana is in part maintained by the petro-chemical industry that has no desire to compete with the industrial potential of legalized Hemp. Paper products and clothing can be produced without a single tree being cut down, or a single drop of oil being used, and the wholesale destruction of the environment can be drastically reduced by simply legalizing Marijuana, which, as industrial Hemp, can replace the damaging industrial processes that we need to be eradicating and replacing anyhow. Legalized Hemp will produce an incredible cash crop for farmers who are currently suffering, and will provide a stimulating shot in the arm for the American economy which can use all the help it can get. Legalized Marijuana can be taxed, and the tax money can go toward supporting all sorts of things, not the least of which is education about, and treatment for - drugs that are, unlike Marijuana, proven to be addictive and destructive to society.
4) Crime -
The Drug War is a Failure! It can never be anything but a Failure! Prohibition only creates a criminal class that becomes rich by supplying a demand that market forces are not allowed to supply. Prohibition creates criminals by definition; those who supply the illegal demand are now criminals just for supplying it. Illegality distorts prices, which can now be jacked up because they are not subject to legal market forces. A market that is classified illegal attracts criminals to run it, which increases the use of violence. A mistake that leads to a firing in the free market becomes a capitol offense in the criminal market, and leads to a bullet in the head! Criminals become rich under prohibition, and corrupt police and politicians take kickbacks by selectively "looking the other way", and enforcing the laws only against competitors that do not pay them. In short, criminilization expands criminal activity.
Marijuana is a product that is sought by a large portion of our culture. Under the ban of illegality, only criminals and corrupt officials can profit. Making a sought after product illegal creates and expands organized crime, makes gangsters richer, spreads corruption in police departments, and leaves the drug easily obtainable to anyone who wants it.
Legalization destroys the base of the criminal operation, and removes the revenue that funds official corruption.
Prohibition does not work! It did not work for alcohol, it is not working for any other drug, nor will it ever. Prohibition is maintained largely by those who profit from it. The so called Drug War is maintained to this day by the vast amount of corrupt politicians and law enforcement agents who are making way too much money from it. Legalization will cut the rug from under their feet!
All too many non violent offenders are in our prisons today, and overcrowding has become a proverbial problem. Prison overcrowding can be solved by getting all of our non violent offenders out. Drug users and addicts are not criminals, they are people suffering from health problems. They should be treated medically, not criminally. Repealling prohibition laws will decriminilize an entire class of people, remove them from our prisons and legal systems, and leave law enforcement to focus on the violent criminals who are creating the real problems in our society. For every violent criminal who committed a crime under the influence of a substance, there are several responsible citizens who use Marijuana recreationally and have never harmed anyone, and never will.
5) Morality and Freedom -
The story of Adam and Eve and the forbidden fruit is a morality tale about illegal substance use - we would not listen to God, nor will we listen to man!
According to this foundational mythology, the desire to ingest a substance and alter one's consciousness is the oldest act of humankind, perhaps a part of our very essence. Yet who will today stand up for human freedom....other than the Founding Fathers, of course?!
Marijuana legalization has been promoted for years in the same way I have just promoted it - historically, economically, medically, and in criminal justice terms,
but never before has it been promoted in terms of simple human freedom and joy. Under the terms of American Independance a human is free to pursue Life, Liberty, and Happiness as they may, provided they do not step upon the rights of others to do the same. If the ingestion of alcohol, or the inhalation and consumption of Marijuana brings joy to those who do it, why should we deny that? Is it okay to legalize a substance that has medicinal and economic benefits, yet never stand up for it's recreational use? Why are drugs supposed do everything we want them to, except create fun and joy? We live in a culture that makes the pretense of waging a Drug War, while drug companies promote their latest Cures for Everything every night on TV. What kind of hypocritical messages are we sending to the youth of American when we promote drugs for erectile dysfunction and hair loss and attention span, yet claim to be fighting drug use? Why do we allow drugs to do everything but cause joy? Are we supposed to be afraid to stand up for our right to have fun? When did we, as Americans, lose the courage to defend our right to have a good time?
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and your point is?
heh heh heh...
posted by
mr. helpful on December 17, 2004 10:50 PM
No one is tipping their hand here, are they? ; )
posted by
Key on December 18, 2004 07:39 PM
oh, i'll be happy to tip my hand, key dearest. i was a big time stoner in my late teens and very early twenties.
and i am of the opinion that there is nothing quite like having sex while stoned...and it's even better with someone else... (SORRY...couldnt resist).
and, having said all that, i still dont think marijuana should be legalized.
posted by
mr. helpful on December 18, 2004 08:52 PM
Here, Here. Well thought out very well said.
posted by
John on December 20, 2004 12:14 PM
Your marijuana story was really interesting and it was sort of helpful for my 5 paragraph essay that I have to write for school. If you have any more facts or if you know anything interesting about marijuana, contact me.
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December 15, 2004
Conversation With Sister-In-Law
ME: Hi, guess you're calling to discusss the Christmas gathering. [dread]
SIL: Yeah, I've already talked with [so and so and so and so...]
ME: ...and I hear you're thinking this Saturday. [pleeeease say no]
SIL: That's it! This weekend works best since Christmas is the following Saturday. Have you finished your shopping?
ME: [Yeeahhh, can we talk about something else?] Haven't started!
SIL: [Perky] I'm almost finished!
ME: [May you wake up the fleas of a thousand monkeys.] Of course you are! So what are the plans.?
SIL: Saturday, 3:00.
ME: Okay, where?
SIL: Your house.
ME: [shit, shit, shit, shit, shit....] My house?! [damafrigincrap, she did host Thanksgiving.] Okay, no problem. Hey, thanks for letting me know! [smile!]
Crap.
And let it be known that I love my perfect little non-aging size 5 sister-in-law.
But crap.
Yeah, yeah, Christmas spirit. It's coming. Give me a minute. (You guys really shouldn't expect your cards 'til New Year's anyway.)
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Nice to know they give you a couple of days notice anyway! You could have found out on Sat morning when someone called to ask what time everyone should be at your house *trust me, this happened to me one time*
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Hey Big Spenders!
Before I move on from the topic of the weekend gathering, I should really give a shout out to a couple of BIG SPENDERS who were fool generous enough to pick up the party tabs for the entire group.
Thank you fellas.
(So uh... What are you guys doin' for New Year's Eve?)
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My pleasure!
New Years Eve? It’s amateur night, so I'll be staying home and winding the clock forward a couple of hours so I can make midnight.
posted by
Sam on December 16, 2004 08:38 AM
... my pleasure, Key.... truly...
.. as for New Years... we'll be partying down at the SWHouse.. feel free to drag the Husband along... we'll get along famously...
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December 14, 2004
As an Addendum
My husband kindly requests the physical addresses of the following: Acidman, Catfish, Eric, Velociman, Sam, and Adam.
What? He enjoyed meeting you, that's all. Said something about wanting to send you something special...
(You can just email it to me, thanks.)
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.. heh... hehe... heh.. uh.. okay.... email coming shortly..
posted by
Eric on December 14, 2004 05:43 PM
Done!
posted by
Sam on December 14, 2004 05:49 PM
Sniff...no one ever asks ME for my address.
Glad you had a great time!!!!
posted by
Moogie on December 14, 2004 07:09 PM
He DOES know that I'm heavily armed, doesn't he?
posted by
Acidman on December 14, 2004 08:56 PM
LOL!
You DO know that I just threw that up there to give you a little hell!
He doesn't want your addresses. I do. I ACTUALLY want the addresses of every Georgia blogger (regardless of meet attendance), and every honorary "JAWJA" blogger (meaning you're outside the state, but you've attended a meet.)
Seriously. Email them to me.
If you don't get a Christmas card this year, I have 12 months to prepare for next year!
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Key on December 14, 2004 09:21 PM
My address is:
Velociman
c/o
Acidman
posted by
Velociman on December 14, 2004 09:44 PM
Y'all do know that this is how a great many purges begin?
Let the damns burst!
Zverethad the Malignant
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December 13, 2004
Twas Two Nights Before Last...
...and all through the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a louse.
The children were nestled all snug in their beds, while visions of cell phones danced in their heads.
And I in my mischief, after fretting about, had just made arrangements for a long night out.
Once out on the town there arose such a clatter,
That I followed the sound to see what was the matter.
And WHAT to my wondering eyes should appear but a table of bloggers and a buttload of beer! ...with a much frazzled barmaid serving scotch neat, I knew in an instant this must be a meet!
More vapid than eagles, the bloggers they came, and I whistled and shouted, and called them by name...
"Hi Sammy! Hi Acid and Cat and Woman of the Blight! Yo Mutant! Yo Cupid! 'Sup Man that is White!"
Partied to the top of their lungs they did, until the law someone called, and did them all in.
As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly,
The revelers did realize their time draweth nigh.
So up to their rooms the bloggers they flew,
With a head full of joys and a hangover too.
(The blogger who lives here had nothing to say, so she skipped a day blogging, then spat something gay....)
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... "man that is white"?.. dayum, baby.... cut me to the bone.... ;)
posted by
Eric on December 14, 2004 05:45 PM
Hey, tryin to rhyme here!
posted by
Key on December 14, 2004 05:57 PM
Key...dudette...you gotta let me know when you guys are having another blogger meet in Jawja! I'll even bring what's his name! Maybe.
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Moogie on December 14, 2004 07:07 PM
Why isn't my trackback pinging? I have issues...
other than not being the Thrill Hammer of the Gods, of course.
posted by
Velociman on December 14, 2004 10:08 PM
You have almost six months to work on a poem for the next gathering.
I swear...the only reason I've blogged at all is to be able to attend the fest without the label of 'groupie.'
I can't wait.
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December 10, 2004
Runnin from the Cops, a Tale From My Youth
It all started when I was 15. I had two best girlfriends, and a terrible trio we were, until one of them moved to Virginia Beach. (She was a military brat.)
We, the remaining duo, pooled the funds, and by the time the following summer rolled around, we had enough for airfare. TWO WEEKS away from home! (...her poor mom.)
We didn't waste any time, the first Friday there, we headed for a humungo keg party complete with a garage band. (No parents in sight.)
We were there maybe thirty minutes before the cops showed up. The band members headed for the stairs. They looked like men with missions, so we followed them. After climbing two flights of stairs, we found ourselves secluded in a small, finished room in the attic. It was very quiet in contrast to the chaos reverberating throughout the rest of the house.
Ten minutes later, our nerves were beginning to calm, but no, we should have known better. We weren't THAT lucky. Two cops barged in and began searching the room.
We were shocked. We didn't know WHAT was going on. We had been up there the whole time; we didn't even KNOW there was alcohol downstairs.
So he looked at us as though we were full of shit--and we were---and then he told us to hit the road.
BUT WE HAD MADE NEW FRIENDS
...and they were in a band...and they were cute. So we snuck out to meet them a couple of times.
Sooo...Is it commom knowledge that people are really weird about teenagers hanging out in houses under construction in Virginia?
I had never had a problem in Georgia...
This house was just down the street from my friend's house. We rationalized that since we were already sneaking out, it might be best if we didn't also leave the area. Huh. WRONG!
So the second we entered the house, the three guys each grabbed their respective "match," pulling us three different directions, and thereby killing the "safety in numbers" barrier.
Luckily, I had the sense to keep my clothes on. (For at least another year in fact, but that's another story.) I heard my friends in the bonus room and figured that's where I needed to be. So, I dragged my date up the stairs to join the others. That's when we noticed blue lights flickering in the windows.
Chivalry was dead that night. And stupid. Two of them ran into the neighbor's yard, (likely the very neighbors that had ratted us out.) I followed my idiot date into the woods, where he promptly LOST my ass.
Did I mention that I was bare-footed? Yep, you can take the girl outta Georgia, but you can't take Georgia outta the girl.
The briars were a bitch. I was on a brush-infested upward slope, making my way to the tracks that ending up being my saving grace.
The officer below encircled me within the spotlight of his flashlight and ordered me to come out of there. I stared at him. I thought about it. Then I thought, nah, I think I'll take my chances with the briars.
I continued towards the tracks, and followed them two streets over. I waited fifteen minutes before I snuck my ass into my friend's fenced back yard.
No police vehicles in sight, I would have been encouraged had the lights not been on, and my friend's angry mom not been standing in the center of the Living Room interrogating the other two.
Great, I thought, those dumbasses got themselves caught. Were they stupid enough to tell the cop where they lived? We had no I.D. on us. They could have pointed to an empty house, explained that their parents were out of town, and begged for mercy, but nooo...
I went in. "YOU!" she shrieked. "I would have expected this kind of behavior out of the other two, but YOU..." she shook her head, "I expected more out of you."
Figure that. She expected more out of me than she did out of her own daughter. That's nice. Wonder what she would have thought, had she known that I had been making out with her son for several hours on the nights that I didn't have a date? (...So I was a bit of a player. Who wasn't at that age?)
PISSED
Upstairs, within the sanctity of our shared bedroom, I learned that my friends HAD initially gotten away, but that the GUYS, the testicularly-challenged, oatmeal for brains GUYS, got their asses caught, and rather than act natural, (dumb), they led the police officers directly to my friend's house.
Weenies.
Dumbasses.
I realize that the entire situation was less than ideal, on my part as well, but, come on, was that not WRONG?
There you have it. One of the tales of my youth. I'm at a scary age. I'm old enough to expect more out of my child, yet young enough to remember exactly what it was like to be, well, misdirected.
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I don't think we ever forget those misdirections as long as we live. We remember them being fun at the time, but then we wonder, "What in the hell was I thinking?" Then we hope our kids don't do the same foolish things we did... then we realize they probably will.
posted by
Dash on December 10, 2004 06:05 PM
That's what you get for hanging around guitar players. I've WARNED YOU about those swine.
posted by
Acidman on December 10, 2004 08:10 PM
I liked it then,I like it again... I'm in Greesboro, Ga...Know where that is? I don't.
posted by
Sam on December 10, 2004 10:22 PM
*L* Tales of your youth are almost an echo of mine! Well, maybe mine happened 10 or 20 years before yours, but what the hell! I've heard it said, 'If you remember the 60's you didn't Live in the 60's',,,sort of true, too!
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December 09, 2004
The Birds and The Bees
So I was enjoying a balmy late summer afternoon, as I sat on a rusted front porch swing with my third cousin twice removed, whom I had just met.
He was six. I was five. The adults were inside this ancient home (located somewhere within the bounds of Arkansas), that I think belonged to a distant aunt, whom I had also just met.
So we sat there, we two, and pondered what little activity the small side street had to offer.
And I was shy, but he wasn't.
"Do you know how babies are made?" he asked.
"Yeah," I answered, only partially interested, "in their mom's tummy."
"...but do you know HOW they got in there?"
I may have thought for a moment before shrugging my shoulders. And that was all the prompting he needed. He then proceeded to tell me exactly what private thingy went where to get the task accomplished, and he was quite satisfied with himself once he had earned an "eeeew, are you sure?" out of me.
"Oh, I'm sure," he drawled confidently.
Silence. Then...
"So ya wanna try it?" (...starting young with the chase, he was.)
"No!" (And, yes, I was quick on the draw with that one.)
Four years later my mother sat me down at the dining room table and gave me the official scoop. It was much grosser that time, because I then had to accept the fact that she did it...which was horrifying, yet had somehow managed to escape my still budding and fragile mind the previous four years, intentional avoidance perhaps.
So begs the question... Miss Priss is eight, and I didn't assign her that name cuz I think it's cute. The girl is a priss. She will be mortified, which is why I have stalled thus far. So I ask, is there a magic age to have "the talk"?
Or perhaps, what I really want to know, gentle readers, is how much longer can I get away with putting this off?
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Eight is not too young to hear 'bout the birds and the bees. Yes, she WILL be mortified. But, the good thing about that is, that she will remember it far better than she would if she WEREN'T mortified. When you're eight, mortification sticks with ya.
I had "the talk" with my OWN Miss Priss (and, whooo, boy...she WAS) when she was about 9 or so. And then, only because I couldn't figure out a way to put it off any longer. heh We did it in her room. At night. With all the lights off. (Her request, not mine.) So I didn't have to see her little face glowing bright red, I'm sure.
Yes, she was mortified. But, she's 32 now. And, STILL remembers. She also STILL gets the heebie jeebies, her head spins around and she spews green pea soup if she's forced into thinking about ME actually "doing it". Which, of course, I take full advantage of. heh
posted by
Pammy on December 9, 2004 05:58 PM
Oiy veh. A million dollar question that is. My oldest is 10, and my youngest is six. Both girls. As much as my face turns red when I do it, I try to answer their questions honestly when they ask. Of course, that would assume that your child is seriously inquisitive about wierd things, like mine. There are a lot of good books out there for kids. If you want...I can get you the titles of them (lot's of them are in libraries and I've probably used most of them). They really do a good job of introducing the subject in a more than acceptable manner to kids. Then..you can go from there. It always stirs up more questions.
I guess what I'm trying to stay is start slow...with a book or something you feel comfortable with. And the questions will follow. Try for age approriate answers. I'm thinking right now that Miss Priss wouldn't be ready to hear the mechanics. There's nothing that says you have to start there.
Bottom line....you know your child better than anyone...give her the talk that wouldn't make her run from the room screaming "I WANT TO BE A NUN!" No what I mean?
posted by
Moogie on December 9, 2004 06:02 PM
I have to make bold statment and the assumption that Ms. Priss goes to school. What do you think they talk about on the playground, I am just glad this task falls to the mother. Damn, I don't remember if I had that talk with my son, oh well he is in the AirForce and I am sure it was part of basic training.
posted by
James Old Guy on December 10, 2004 09:43 AM
My oldest daughter is 9 1/2 and I tremble with fear that she is "learning things on the playground." I believe that she is too young, but some of her friends are more physically developed and may need The Talk. My daughter is well developed intellectually and emotionally ... she may be ready ... Jillian, go talk to your mother.
posted by
John on December 10, 2004 10:33 AM
I have 6 daughters, my oldest is eleven and has been asking questions about this very subject since she could talk. I always answered her honestly, but with as few details as possible. The more she asked the more information she received until she finally received the "whole" talk and yes, she was mortified and now does not even want to see my husband hold my hand. I have eight year old twins and we are currently starting discussions. I agree with Moogie, a little at a time. It all depends on the child, but I promise you if you do not tell her someone else will and it will not be the whole or even correct story. By the way Moogie says hello.
posted by
Melonie on December 10, 2004 08:07 PM
Listen to Moogie and Melonie, they know. I called Melonie when my preteen (a boy) started asking me questions. My advice, which might be redundant, is also to keep it simple. Don't volunteer more than you have to unless they ask, in which case go into more detail. I tried hard to seem very matter of fact about it so as to not introduce any self-consciousness which would hamper future talks.
Moogie says hello... :)
posted by
sharon on December 10, 2004 08:48 PM
I actually told mine from teh first time they asked. It started off being a special cuddle that makes babies and grew from there. I thought they knew everything.Then when my son was 10 he asked how the baby got out. I told him remember how it got in ?, he told me, well I said the process is reversed
"what" he said
"through the fanny" fanny being the english vernacular for female body parts with no acceptable name.
"yes" i said
"but there's no room mum"
"Philip" I said "every day there are millions of women who would agree wiht that one"
posted by
christine on December 11, 2004 02:29 AM
I agree with Sharon. Keep it simple and don't answer more than they ask. But answer when they ask, don't put it off.
And I came by way of Moogie,
posted by
TW on December 11, 2004 01:57 PM
hmm..this is quite interesting
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December 08, 2004
So It's Like This
Last night I had a situation.
I left my new Dish renewal card keys at the office (along with my DSL connection) and my horse country dial-up was particularly slow at the house and Miss Priss was neck-up in covers with a 101 degree fever and yelling "I'm NOT sick!"
What kind of a kid doesn't want to be sick/miss school, you ask? I will tell you; that would be one Miss Priss who did not want to miss the deadline of the canathon, when her daddy's company was planning on contributing 160 cans. After all, this could mean pizza party.
So, I continued to make dinner, while the entertainmently challenged kids attempted to find a way to live without television. I'm assuming this would have been easier, had one of them not been ill.
"MOM!!!!!" the ill one bellowed.
I stopped stirring spaghetti sauce and went to peek in on her. "MOOOOOOOOOM!!..."
"Yes?"
"I'm not sick."
"Okay, honey. We'll take your temp again in the morning."
So, I went about my business in the Kitchen, all the while being serenaded from the back of the house, "I'M. NOT. SICK!!"
"MOM!"
"Yes, baby..."
"...I'm not sick."
This went on for an hour.
Finally, at some point in the night, not a creature was stirring except my fried nerves. So I hit the wet bar, and my wondering eyes lit upon a bottle of tequila.
I then pulled out my handy dandy shot glass with the magic words etched on the side, "Shots make you SEE double and FEEL single." Then I sat under the object of my sap-covered frustration, my lighted tree, and poured me one.
Or two or three.
And then and only then, did I figure out all of the answers to life's quandaries. Unfortunately, I have since forgotten my findings.
Miss Priss awoke feverless, Dish service is restored, and although the house is littered with a dozen partially unpacked Christmas boxes, the tree is finally perfect.
It houses everything from $30 collector's ornaments to glittered popsicle sticks formed into a star and foam angels featuring my daughter's face. And it is beautiful.
And so it emerges... My Christmas spirit.
Now, maybe, just maybe, I can handle shopping.
Disclaimer: Okay, so it wasn't tequila. I used the shot class to measure out hair color developer. But I thought about the tequila, and I may have braved it, had I been able to get past the ominous looking segmented worm hovering near the base of the bottle.
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Tease. I was ready for the strip show.
posted by
Velociman on December 8, 2004 11:14 PM
so, like, you didn't shoot the root?
come on.
you deserve at least that much.
and thank you key, now i'll never have kids.
posted by
coldbeverage on December 9, 2004 01:15 AM
I'm sick...if I admit it, will you have a cocktail? On my behalf? :D
posted by
kelley on December 9, 2004 08:36 AM
I still think you should have had a drink. Or at least took a chuck out of the hair dye. Heck, your nerves would still be fried but you wouldn't care!
posted by
Moogie on December 9, 2004 11:32 AM
Tequila is usually good for what ails ya, but if it was con gusano "with worm", it probably wasn't Tequila, but Mezcal. They're similar, but are made from different agave plants. Either way, drink up! And for a good bar trick, you can eat the worm. (After 6 or 8 shots, you won't even mind.)
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Dash on December 10, 2004 04:29 PM
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December 07, 2004
Blogger Smilies
Okay, anyone who has been to dictionary. com recently has seen the new smilies. Am I the only one who is reminded of bloggers when I see these things?
Let's do this left to right, top to bottom. First up, looking like he's getting ready to clean the wax out of a distraught smilie's ear, is Velociman. Next is Mr. Happy-go-lucky, my buddy Sammy baby. Receiving the Velocitongue as mentioned earlier, Acidman, who is still hungover from his week in paradise. Center stage with the shit-eating grin, my girl Kelley. Looking really disappointed with me because, although I adore him, I am a pain in his moderate ass, Jack. First up on the last row is a shocked Christina, after I told her what really goes on at the blogmeets. Love in the eyes would also be Acidman....last week. Looking incredibly distrustful is the man who will tell no one, even those he's met in person, his real name. That would be you, Dax Montana. Last, but so not least is sweet Eric, after a hard night of partying...
Damn. Out of smilies. The rest of you are granted a temporary stay of execution.
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I know Dax's real name, but I'm not telling.
posted by
Acidman on December 7, 2004 05:08 PM
I'm not tonguing Acidman. I'm just showing off my other asset.
posted by
Velociman on December 7, 2004 05:51 PM
... ok.. ok... I get the point.. less Apple Brandy this time.. I promise..
posted by
Eric on December 7, 2004 05:57 PM
Key, I love how your mind works...can I borrow it sometime??
posted by
Christina on December 7, 2004 06:16 PM
Ok..I admit it. What no smilier for me? A snarky mommy/family/life type poster. Sigh..I'll never get up in this world.
posted by
Moogie on December 7, 2004 06:40 PM
Oh, come on! I ran out! I didn't get Mr. Evil or Zonk or Pam or any of my blogkids or many others who deserve such ridicule!
posted by
Key on December 7, 2004 07:50 PM
Damn...finally. I always knew I'd be mentioned in the same paragraph with some famous people.
Key...I love you!!!
Sammy Baby...I love that tooo.
posted by
Sam on December 8, 2004 01:03 AM
Whew! That was FUNNY, Key!!!!!!!
posted by
zonker on December 8, 2004 03:08 AM
Hey! I resemble that remark! Just Damn
posted by
Dax Montana on December 8, 2004 03:36 AM
I know Dax's real name, too. And it's not Jack A$$ or any variation of the same.
After carefully reviewing the smilies, I am glad I was not included in the smilies association game. There are none that match me well. Maybe we can find one by the 11th.
posted by
Adam on December 8, 2004 04:09 PM
Adam, I shoulda given you the love-crazed smilie. WTF was I thinking? After all, there has been a mighty strong force pulling you away from blogworld, and I don't think we can entirely blame the career! ; )
posted by
Key on December 8, 2004 04:22 PM
Whew, I skated by on that one.
posted by
Evilwhiteguy on December 8, 2004 10:25 PM
Of COURSE I'd be the shit-eater! ;)
posted by
kelley on December 9, 2004 08:37 AM
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December 06, 2004
To My Girlfriend
Haaaaaaappy Birthday to YOU! Happy Birthday to you! You knoooow I love you, now write something dammit!
Hey, I never said I was a poet. None-the-less, it is my girl's birthday, and I'm sure she is still checking her comments (even if she appears to be AWOL), so go give her a shout.
Update: Ha! Made her talk! Now, if I could get my readers to talk...
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Just Damn! Do you have important information too?
posted by
Dax Montana on December 6, 2004 09:11 PM
Well..um. Ok, already I'll talk. I'm just not sure what I should say.
posted by
Moogie on December 6, 2004 09:33 PM
It sucks when peeps visit your page and never even stop and say hi, don't it??
posted by
Michele on December 7, 2004 04:48 AM
Hey!
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Rant Hunt Finale!
So I learned a very important lesson from Mr. Helpful, and that is be careful what you ask for...
Within the comments of that post, I managed to spur Mr. Helpful into action, as he has since provided a rant to go with the title. Without further adieu, I give you...
Jesus God In Heaven, What The Fuck Is Wrong With The Left?
by Mr. Helpful
There is much talk about how traditional media outlets (newspapers, magazines and the Big Three Television Networks) are suffering from declining readership/viewership as former readers/viewers flock to "non-traditional" news sources such as the Internet, blogs and Fox News.
As a general rule, this talk is bolstered by "studies" which purport to demonstrate that this mass exodus is a result of people "only hearing what they want to hear" therefore not seeking out "alternate" points of view. I read a column by some hag columnist in which she harshly berated a reader who wrote in to tell her he wouldn't read her anymore because he now went to Fox News for his information. For the columnist, this was the perfect example of someone with a "closed mind" who wasn't willing to gather "other points of view". In the columnist's opinion, this is a very bad thing because "we all have an obligation to consider all points of view".
To which I respond...
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"Jesus God In Heaven, What The Fuck Is Wrong With The Left?"
For liberals there is no "other point of view"....only theirs. The only time they consider "other points of view" is when they piss all over them. Of course we ALL do that, you know, piss on those things we dont agree with however it is the sole province of liberals everywhere to actually pretend they DON'T. Liberals love to present themselves as the arbiters of all that is fair when, in fact, they are the most one sided, sanctimonious, do as I say not as I do, judgmental fakers known to man. Nowhere has this been more apparent than the mainstream media over the past 50 years. Alas, it is being heartily demonstrated, on a daily basis, that the American people no longer buy into the lie. Hoorah!
In the spirit of considering "other points of view", I've been giving Randi Rhodes over on Air America a courtesy listen from time to time. After doing so, I have to ask "Jesus God In Heaven, What The Fuck Is Wrong With The Left?".
This woman isnt insane. She's not a nutjob. She is just plain fucking stupid. What makes her so is her insistence on taking herself so goddamn seriously. That and the fact that, based on photos I've seen, when God created Rhandi, he took what shoulda gone inside her skull and stuck it in her chest. The result is the personification of an idjit with giant hooters. And on the off chance God didn' t create Rhandi but, instead, she evolved from apes, someone really should trace her blood line and stick an "out of order" sign on it. Here are two of her recent "thoughts":
1. The current reason the "insurgents" in Iraq are bombing us over there is because we napalmed their women and children. Well, gee Rhandi, what was their motivation BEFORE we supposedly napalmed their women and children? Because, frankly, they've been bombing us for quite some time. And since when did they gain new found respect for women and children? Last I heard they treated their fucking goats better than their women, you sanctimonious cow. Beyond that, even as they're picking off the occasional Marine, their main target is THEIR OWN FUCKING PEOPLE, you fucking jackass. Turn on Fox News this morning, shit for brains, and see how some thirty IRAQIS were murdered by the insurgents over the weekend and tell me how napalm figures into THAT equation.
2. Dan Rather is resigning because he's tired of the never ending harassment by the Bush administration and their stooges in retaliation for Rather's breaking the Abu Gharib prison story on 60 minutes and Rather's constant harping on the Bush National Guard story. We're losing the best and the brightest in the media because of Bush. But of course, Rhandi. The senile old fool's resignation has nothing to do with his breathless complicity in running a story on Bush's National Guard service that was a complete and filthy lie. Nope. Nosirree. You know something Rhandi? You really ought to stick something, anything into that empty skull of yours because it's got to be pure hell having the wind whistle through your ears during a windstorm.
I could go on for hundreds of thousands of words and take up hours and hours of your time. Instead, I'll simply end with this. To the those on the left, one of their most important mantras is "respect for the minority point of view". By minority, I mean anyone with a point of view that is DIFFERENT than that of the majority. For the left, minority views are to be cast in gold, hoisted on a pedestal and worshipped above all others. How many times do we hear how, if you follow the majority then your behavior borders on that of being a fascist? How many times do we hear that the purpose of nearly all our checks and balances is to protect those not in the majority? To the left, majorityness is evil and minorityness is next to Godliness....er...SupremeBeingness...er...or something like that.
Unless, of course, the left happens to be in the majority for the moment, however fleeting that moment might be. THEN majorityness is "the will of the people". Nowhere is this incongruity more apparent than our presence in Iraq. Despite our coalition of willing partners, the USA is definitely holding the minority position on the wisdom of being in Iraq...at least according to the mainstream media. If you were to apply the mantra of the left when it comes to "minority/majority" matters, the USA should be celebrated for having the guts and the temerity to take a supposedly unpopular position on the liberation of Iraq. We should be cast in gold, hoisted on a pedestal and worshipped above all others for our willingness to be "different"...not toe the party line...not give in to the demands of the majority (that being world opinion).
Such is not the case. Instead, we are castigated, hoisted on a petard and roundly scorned for our presence in Iraq...by the very people who normally celebrate such individually independent actions.
To which I respond...."Jesus God In Heaven, What The Fuck Is Wrong With The Left?"
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Well, now I feel like writing a post called "Jesus God in Heaven, What the Fuck is Wrong with the Right" listing the creeds I have read repeatedly of "creationism should be taught instead of evolution", "torture is an acceptable method of gathering evidence", and "nuke them all and let God sort them out" that I have seen from the far right-wing. I should also list all the instances where I (as a MODERATE commenter, not a far left-wing moonbat) have been abused by both authors and commenters on several right-wing blogs.
It's easy to say "what the fuck is wrong with the left" when you refuse to see the worst of the right-wing.
To be blunt, I think both the right-wing and the left-wings are filled with idiots, and I'm getting really tired of their shit. "Fuck them all" is what I am saying now. They are all getting exactly what they deserve.
Yes, I'm tired of this bullshit, why do you ask?
posted by
Jack on December 6, 2004 02:54 PM
See, I was TOTALLY in the mood for some passionate Jack abuse, thus the motivation for the topic!
Seriously, I do get the need for both sides to let off steam. It's just cathartic.
That's not to say that I don't appreciate your frustration. I mean, somebody's gotta play ref. ;)
posted by
Key on December 6, 2004 04:27 PM
geez jack, who says i refuse to see the worst of the right wing? its just that the sins of the right wing wasnt the topic of my post.
the title of the post was just a throwaway line in one of my other posts...key picked up on it and offered space if i ever expanded it into a post which, as you can see, i did.
nothing more...nothing less
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mr. helpful on December 6, 2004 08:19 PM
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December 05, 2004
Word of the Day
HELL:
This is a special place where spouses are partnered up and forced to work together as they repeatedly and eternally stand, bolt and straighten a sappy and prickly tree into a small metal stand. Once they bicker themselves into reluctant acceptance of the finished product, it will fall, and the task will begin again. This process will continue forever.
Perhaps I should consider living right.
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See? That's why I take a simpler approach to the holiday season: I paint one cat red and the other cat green. It's fun, good exercise and cans of spraypaint are cheap.
posted by
zonker on December 5, 2004 06:01 PM
Perhaps it is time to consider the magic of silk.
posted by
Velociman on December 5, 2004 06:21 PM
Two suggestions: Mistletoe and alcohol.
;-D
posted by
Christina on December 5, 2004 07:04 PM
Blogging on the weekend... my, how you are growing up.
Heh. I can tell you Christmas Tree stories that'll curl your teeth. Some involve chainsaws inside the house.
posted by
Acidman on December 5, 2004 07:37 PM
Hah! I circumvented that one this year. I got my 10 year old to help me. Damn if she didn't figure it out in about 3 minutes. Kind of ticked me off but was proud that we got it up and decorated BEFORE my husband got home from work. He was amazed and later asked me how we did that. I just told him "what, it's not rocket science"
posted by
Moogie on December 5, 2004 08:59 PM
This is why they make those faux trees. When you reach middle age you will know. The days are growing short and there is simply no time for this nonsense.
posted by
Jesse on December 6, 2004 05:56 AM
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December 03, 2004
I So Should Not Post This
This is a secret communication formula.
Once learned, you may communicate with your friends by simply using a number.
For example:
"Hey, Larry, how are you doing today?"
"Ah Joe, not so good. I'd say an 84 easy."
"That sucks Lar. After last night, I'm sittin pretty on an eighteen."
"Good for you Joe! Now, get the fuck outta here. Jerk."
Here's the formula: ((1 + A + B)/(1 + C)) X 5
A = # of times this week you've had sex with someone even though you really weren't into it.
B = # of times you would have had sex this week had the right person been ready, willing, able, and in your bed. (Although this is the fantasy variable, try to keep it real. This isn't how often you think about it; this is how many times you would have been both willing and able within a seven day period.)
C = # of times this week you've actually had mindnumbing sex with the person of your dreams.
Now, do the math.
For those of you who are rusty, allow me to assist you. Add A + B + 1, then divide that sum by the sum of 1 + C. Then multiply by 5.
Your product is a percentage reflecting your level of sexual frustration. Under 10%, either you're living a fairy tale or you have no libido. 10-30%, oversexed. 30-60%, average. 60-100%, sucks to be you.
(Exceeding 100% is possible under extreme circumstances, although more likely such a phenomenon results from lying embellishing on part B.)
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I hit 107%, and Daddy don't lie.
But I do lie. I hit zero, because letter C never happened.
posted by
Velociman on December 3, 2004 09:46 PM
Denominator is 1 + C. Don't knock the formula; it accounts for all...
posted by
Key on December 3, 2004 10:07 PM
That'd be a five.
I know, I know. Don't laugh. My self-esteem is a gutterball.
posted by
Queenie on December 4, 2004 12:50 AM
Finally! That elusive "10" eludes me no more! heh
posted by
Barbara on December 4, 2004 06:07 AM
that reminds me...i almost had sex last night...then my hand got a cramp in it...
heh heh heh...
posted by
mr. helpful on December 4, 2004 12:02 PM
By the way, Velociman, 95 I would have believed...105 even, but if multiplying by 5 is the LAST part of the equation, how the hell did you get 107??
You have to actually work the equation. You can't just make up a number!
Work with me here. ; )
posted by
Key on December 4, 2004 01:49 PM
What does it mean when I keep ending up with #DIV/0!...?
But I think with liberal application of "The Cream" Swineherd should be scoring quite nicely in a week or two.
I believe this formula should be shared with Stephen Hawking... What's that E-mc^2? Mere tiddly-winks compared to the power of Key's formula.
posted by
torchpraise on December 4, 2004 02:01 PM
Just seeing if you were paying attention.
Sincerely,
Mr. I wrote a 5-3-5 haiku at Protein Wisdom.
posted by
Velociman on December 4, 2004 02:02 PM
hmmm 25, strange exactly the number of years, since I had mind numbing sex.
posted by
James Old Guy on December 6, 2004 10:44 AM
I figured out V-Man's score. A=0; B=20.4 (Note: he gets a 2% bonus for thinking about having sex with Tiffany Amber); and C=0.
Answer: (1+0+20.4/1+0)x5=107 Therefore, it "really" sucks to be you. N'est pas?
posted by
Fightin Tiger on December 6, 2004 11:41 AM
Way to go Tiger! I think you are the ONLY one who has this formula figured out!
Either that, or we have some seriously sagging libidos here... ; )
posted by
Key on December 6, 2004 11:58 AM
Does it count as "mindnumbing sex with the person of your dreams" if you were really drunk and don't really remember but it seemed like it at the time?
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December 02, 2004
He's Not a Leader
He's a religion.
Go vote for the Velocigod. He has some catching up to do, as this swuft deity just realized his ass was nominated.
So vote early and vote often, and spread the word, lest he release his wrath upon your internet connection.
(Link Love + Vote = Immunity)
Update: After you vote for Velocidaddy, you must scroll down to the bottom and vote for our bastard offspring as "best of the rest." Queenie has landed a nomination with Inblognito after only having been out there a matter of weeks. Yeah, she kicks ass...
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This post is excellent. It deserves a comment. Or 50. IMHO.
posted by
Velociman on December 2, 2004 09:29 PM
Uh, I did already. What do I do now?
posted by
RedNeck on December 3, 2004 08:41 AM
Vote again tomorrow. (You can vote once per day, I believe. : D)
posted by
Key on December 3, 2004 11:23 AM
That boy ain't right...that's why he gets my vote.
posted by
Sam on December 3, 2004 01:39 PM
I voted for him yesterday, before I even saw this post. Nobody beats the Velocidude! :)
posted by
pam on December 3, 2004 02:00 PM
Damn, I am tired of elections, hope this doesn't involve an acceptance speech. Oh yea, I voted for him.
posted by
James Old Guy on December 3, 2004 02:28 PM
Thank you, Mommy Dearest. ;)
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Queenie on December 4, 2004 12:47 AM
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Government Sponsored Health Coverage
That ought to be the title of Stephen King's next literary masterpiece, don't you think?
I'm linking my lovely liberal blogson on this topic, as we are debating it on his site, and have even had some spill over into the comment section of my last post.
My rant is within his comments. Please join the debate, either here or there. I realize that we outnumber him, but he is incredible sturdy as well as intelligent (for a liberal), so he will survive.
Besides, if we can get Jack involved, he might even the score a bit. No doubt the child inherited his argumentative disposition from his moderate blogfaddah anyhow.
(Oh, and one more thing. YES! I am 30!! Do you want me to put that hideous number on my sidebar? Oh, but NO! I prefer "recently 29," but yes, I do pay - sweat, blood, and tears - the health premiums for two 30+ year olds.)
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Hmmm...instead of "recently 29 yr. old" you can put "formerly 29 yr. old".
What?!
posted by
zonker on December 2, 2004 07:08 PM
Yeah, like FORMER Miss America?
Why not just say LOSER?!?!?
(Sorry. Touchy subject. Any MORE suggestions? :D)
posted by
Key on December 2, 2004 07:15 PM
My life insurance premium went up 75% on my 40th birthday month before last. Apparently I instantly became a higher risk on my birthday...
I'll get involved in your debate soon. I just worked a few 15 hour days, and I need to recover. I'm an old man now, remember?
posted by
Jack on December 3, 2004 02:23 AM
From "recently 29 yr. old" to "still young enough to appreciate the frosted side of Frosted MiniWheats"?
I'm trying here, Key. I really am. I'm 33 though and senility can be a real pain in the....what was I talking about?
posted by
zonker on December 3, 2004 02:15 PM
30? Damn I have underwear older than that. Your not even broke in yet.
posted by
James Old Guy on December 3, 2004 02:31 PM
Yanno, us 30+ year olds are about sick of hearing you bitch about being just 30.
Hell, you're still a babe. ;)
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DeAnna on December 3, 2004 02:41 PM
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December 01, 2004
Sorting the Snail Mail
Some of you freaks have amazingly neat inboxes. You read your mail and immediately sort it. There is no way you could begin to understand my plight.
For the rest of you, imagine the contents of your inbox sealed up in envelopes and piled up on your kitchen table.
Yeah. Twas ugly.
But today, I sorted. And sorted. And most of it was grandiose offers of better living [junk], as I do tend to at least pull the bills out on a daily basis.
So I was ripping, tearing, and pitching when I came across a folded piece of literature that read PUBLIC NOTIFICATION.
And I should have tossed it then. Allow me to share:
MONITORING/REPORTING REQUIREMENTS NOT MET
We are required to monitor your drinking water for specific contaminants on a regular basis. Results for regular monitoring are an indicator of whether or not our drinking water meets health standards. During compliance period's 4/1/03 to 6/30/03, we did not complete all monitoring or testing for total haloatic acids (HAA5) and total trihalomethanes (TTHMs) and therefore cannot be sure of the quality of your drinking water during that time.
Well.
Thanks for telling me....and only EIGHTEEN months later!
Gee. Would have hated to go on thinking that I HADN'T ingested chemical waste water and possible carcinogens during that three month period!
What the hell? Glowing could be fun. Perhaps that wasn't a ghost I saw shortly after I moved in...could have just been a lost little girl who had recently bathed in radioactive water.
So, I'm writing back:
Dear Gov'tards Water Basin Authority,
In the future, please let me know if ever there is a need to IMMEDIATELY stop drinking my water, should you feel compelled to discontinue monitoring its chemical to excrement ratio. I will gladly switch to bottled water until such time as you see fit to continue doing your job.
However, should you realize AFTER THE FACT that I have been drinking live, active, and chemically mutated cultures of God knows what, feel free to take my name off of your mailing list. I give you permission. Really. DON'T FRIGGIN TELL ME!
(From now on, any medical condition with which I am afflicted shall be attributed to the long-term ingestion of mutoid chemical organisms.)
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You know, I always wondered why that Georgia water had a "taste". We should all move to Iceland...now, that's water defined.
Anyway, I'm sure it's not the water that makes you glow...it's gotta be the shampoo.
Just kidding.
posted by
Sam on December 1, 2004 03:18 PM
Eeeeek...how many fingers am I holding up.
Come to think of it...Georgia water does taste kind of funny...probably why we have one of those filter and reverse osmosis thingamabobs hooked up to the kitchen faucet.
At least it explains why the dog glows in the dark.
posted by
Moogie on December 1, 2004 05:50 PM
If you're curious, both haloacetic acids and total trihalomethanes are byproducts of chlorinating water. Evidence has started to accumulate that they're mildly carcinogenic, so the EPA requires that their levels be kept below 80 parts per billion.
If it's any consolation, that small increased risk of cancer is a tradeoff for a vastly decreased risk of bacterial infection from the water supply. These aren't radioactive, so on the down side your chance of glowing is pretty low.
Why they took a year and a half to tell you, and why they didn't bother to explain what HAA5 and TTHMs were in the letter are questions I can't answer. At a guess, your water authority is like most local governmental bodies these days--ludicrously underfunded, and empolying a mix of the insanely dedicated (willing to work for a small fraction of what they'd make in the private sector) and the incompetent (glad to find work at any salary).
posted by
The Polite Liberal on December 1, 2004 06:18 PM
Yeah, I did google the two terms. (I had to see WHAT I'd introduced into my system, right?)
But "glowing" is better for story-telling. ;D
(Although the 18 months is NO exaggeration.)
posted by
Key on December 1, 2004 07:04 PM
On the plus side, they didn't even test for TTHMs until 1982, so we've all had a good decade or so of quaffing them. A few months probably won't do us much further damage =-)
Gotta love Google!
If your local water district is horribly understaffed, it's possible that it's taken them this long to notice that they weren't generating data from 2003. I always feel a bit sorry for local governmental bodies like water districts and city agencies--they're usually at the very end of the chain of buck-taking (the federal government imposes unfunded mandates on the states, which then turn around and underfund local governmental agencies to pay for the mandates, which then are forced to make insane budgetary decisions like "do we all really need chairs and phones?").
posted by
The Polite Liberal on December 1, 2004 09:16 PM
I must ask you, my liberal blogson, if you GET the government's gross inefficiency of fund management (due to the trickle down through bureaucratic bullshit, etc, etc), why would you then think such an entity - in any way, shape or form - CAPABLE of providing nationwide health coverage?
Didn't I raise you better than that?
posted by
Key on December 1, 2004 09:40 PM
I thought pretty southern girls like you drank bottled water. This is a big revelation, and I beg you to make the switch soon. My rec?
Aquafina.
posted by
coldbeverage on December 1, 2004 11:23 PM
Basically because I've worked at private companies as well. They're also grossly inefficient. For a big enough company, you have a similarly ludicrous amount of bureaucratic bullshit. You also have random management whims, absurd management salaries, and a host of other problems. (Disney, for example, spent $140 million in its hiring then immediate firing of Michael Ovitz. That's about four times the budget of a small state university!)
Government can work, or not, depending on whether people are willing to get publicly involved and demand oversight. Private enterprise can work, or not, depending if there are either market forces or government regulation to quell abuses. I generally prefer government for basic services (ones that you oughtn't be able to lose even when you're going through hard times) and the free market for everything else. They work well together, actually (the Internet's a classic example of the way everything should work--developed by university scientists for the Defense Department (it was originally DARPAnet), then set loose to be used by commercial entities.
posted by
The Polite Liberal on December 2, 2004 12:05 AM
Ah, Drinki-drinki brings an easy question to the table for mama's post-midnight brain to chew on.
Yes, honey, I DO prefer bottled water. But I don't always have it on hand, and I have a really nice ref (which chills and filters the water), so if I must drink the tap, it doesn't feel all THAT primitive.
It's okay honey. I lived. I'm fine. And with my new gills, I can hold my breath for like ten minutes under water!
(But don't test that theory, 'kay?)
posted by
Key on December 2, 2004 12:43 AM
Don't feel bad...when I lived in Delaware, the municipal water system was soooooooo screwed up, Key. I'm talking "Sea Monkeys In Every Glass" screwed up. Once every other month I'd get a letter from my landlord advising me that on the city would be flushing the pipes on such-and-such day and not to use (let alone drink) the water between, say, 8:30 and 5. Of course, after 5 we needed to run the faucets for a few minutes to ensure we got fresh water.
There is nothing quite so discouraging as waking up late, forgetting about the letter, hopping in the shower and getting sprayed with brown water. Worse still...you can't even wash it off until the clean water comes back. Try calling your boss and explaining that. Blegh...that ensured such a miserable, wasted day off.
posted by
zonker on December 2, 2004 01:21 AM
Eighteen months taken to notify you not withstanding, at least they're making efforts to meet health standards. The last city I lived in, for four years, has known the arsenic content in the water is unforgivably high, and have done nothing about it. It's the worst on the campus, where I spent most of my time. While most people laughed about it (it might be carcinogenic, but if anyone tries to slyly poison me, they won't have much luck with arsenic due to my new tolerance, thanks to the city), a little boy taking a tour of the campus last year actually developed accute poisoning.
I'm assuming he was really sensitive, or put his mouth on the fountain while drinking from it, and got just enough of the dried on minerals from it to cause poisoning or something. That didn't make it any less disturbing, however.
posted by
Samira on December 3, 2004 05:52 PM
do garden/land snails drink water? i've got 3 and they r so cute! they r called peachy, creamy and custard! ive been lukin on loadsa websites but i cant find an answer! somone please tell me!
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me on May 21, 2005 10:11 AM
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